tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5567830.post4691874270549835495..comments2023-12-21T00:14:42.856-06:00Comments on A Religious Liberal Blog: Culture War CostsDwighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01022414933969854363noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5567830.post-41492370009356176102008-02-21T22:38:00.000-06:002008-02-21T22:38:00.000-06:00Dwight,I grew up in Whitehall, graduated High scho...Dwight,<BR/><BR/>I grew up in Whitehall, graduated High school in Butte in 1980 and went to Montana State in Bozeman for two years. I didn't become a Presbyterian until I married in 1983 and my wife and I moved out of state. Came back in 2001-2005 and pastored First Pres. Billings. <BR/><BR/>Sherwood McKay is pastor at First Pres. Miles City now. Good guy.<BR/><BR/>My daughter attended UM andJohn Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5567830.post-38079793119266424962008-02-21T22:23:00.000-06:002008-02-21T22:23:00.000-06:00Hi Dwight;As far as I know, the Christian ministri...Hi Dwight;<BR/><BR/>As far as I know, the Christian ministries on my campus were either accepting, or practiced "don't ask, don't tell". They tended to frown on casual sex, period, regardless of whether it was hetero or homosexual. It is a shame that it's turning into a political stump issue though. Our ministry focused on charities, missionary work, retreats and bible study, in short, spiritual Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5567830.post-6605536954146662642008-02-21T18:22:00.000-06:002008-02-21T18:22:00.000-06:00I was always a closeted member of Christians group...I was always a closeted member of Christians groups when I was in college because there were no progressive or liberal groups, they were all fundamentalist-based. Since college, I habe joined the UCC and my partner and I are both respeceted members.<BR/>jos76<BR/>www.jos76.wordpress.comJos76https://www.blogger.com/profile/01483616609442136071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5567830.post-37967274277357469862008-02-21T17:38:00.000-06:002008-02-21T17:38:00.000-06:00AndrewIronically it was an ELCA campus ministry th...Andrew<BR/>Ironically it was an ELCA campus ministry that let me stay in the faith. But polity does concern me in both denominations. There's some great churches in all the mainline denominations, depending on the community, etc.<BR/><BR/>Alan<BR/>Indeed. Which is why their complaints are to take seriously.<BR/><BR/>John <BR/>I think one of the many final straws was when the local UCC Dwighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01022414933969854363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5567830.post-29382357776817297902008-02-21T16:07:00.000-06:002008-02-21T16:07:00.000-06:00Hey Dwight,Good analysis. I think you are right r...Hey Dwight,<BR/><BR/>Good analysis. I think you are right regarding the polity of the more 'connectional' denominations that allows the rabid fundies to shut down progress. <BR/><BR/>I didn't know you went to UM. FPC in Missoula is a fundie disaster.John Shuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00798753206614838161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5567830.post-34974401430795751192008-02-21T11:38:00.000-06:002008-02-21T11:38:00.000-06:00Yeah, and I think it's sad that there's all this h...Yeah, and I think it's sad that there's all this hand-wringing about scaring off people with traditional/conservative religious views, but no one really seems to mind if progressives leave...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5567830.post-54876905382647099952008-02-21T11:07:00.000-06:002008-02-21T11:07:00.000-06:00"I wonder why they don't recognize the progressive..."I wonder why they don't recognize the progressives who have left because of their unhappiness with recent events/decisions in the churchwide organization."<BR/><BR/>Because they don't care, perhaps?Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274395216929104919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5567830.post-53066636733332176052008-02-21T08:29:00.000-06:002008-02-21T08:29:00.000-06:00Hi Dwight,I understand what you're saying. I left...Hi Dwight,<BR/><BR/>I understand what you're saying. I left the ELCA because of similar issues that caused you to leave the PCUSA (I ended up in the PCUSA because of my local congregation's progressive stances). Whenever I read about conservative people leaving the ELCA because of the church's progressive activities, I wonder why they don't recognize the progressives who have left because of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com