A Religious Liberal Blog

This site hopefully can provide some vehicle by which I can comment, complain, and once in a while praise the state of religion in this country and around the world from a liberal protestant perspective.

Monday, March 10, 2008

The You Tube Frontier

I created my first blog in 1995. It was a lefty faith site and at that time there were very few of us mainline and progressive religious sites. So I started collecting links to all I could find.

A few sites stole my list :) But it was worth it to get the word around since the evangelicals were the first to swamp this medium. I'd say it wasn't until the late 90s before there was a sufficient number of progressive religious websites on the net.

As a latecomer I've just discovered you tube and I've run into the same issue. The near absence of progressive religion on you tube. The UCC, the UUA, and the Episcopalians have some presence there but none of the other mainline churches are to be found.

The Disciples of Christ are utterly absent. So a friend and mine thought: why can't there be a challenge for congregations and other folks who value progressive Christianity, their denomination and their congregation to start making videos reflecting these things?

We're looking at having the kids in our church help us in the planning and making a video for our congregation to post on you tube. In any case, it's another avenue for spreading the good news that faith is much wider than many have thought. Something worth exploring.


At 7:57 AM , Anonymous Drew said...

It has pretty well documented that the use of media has been the bastion of the right and without which they would not have gained so much power - especially in political circles. I think this is reflected in a lot of the book written by atheists as well. Air America was not as successful as hoped either.

So what about the progressive message not only among the political spinsters, but among the religious spectrum does not sell?

At 1:09 PM , Anonymous Fr Chris said...

Fr Matthew Moretz of the Episcopal Church has a really nice YouTube channel, geared toward young people but with real, substantive theology:


You should definitely check it out -- it's good stuff. He even has a series on the seven sacraments, and he posted a good, weighty, pastoral response to the "blasphemy challenge" some atheists posed.

I have been thinking of doing a video podcast for a while. Dunno if it will happen, but the new traditional liturgy ministry we just started gives me another impetus to get off my duff and think about doing one.

At 12:11 AM , Anonymous Andrew said...

How can you be a devout believer in Jesus Christ and everything he said in the Bible, the Living Word of God, and also politically liberal?

I ask this out of genuine curiosity, not from a judgemental or attaking point of view.

What are you positions on:
Gay Marriage
Prayer in Public Schools
Evolution in Public Schools

...to name a few.



At 10:58 AM , Blogger Dwight said...

I have a feeling that ambiguity is not as easy to package (which explains the temptation for progressives to trade in absolutes as readily as the right does).

Fr Chris
Thanks..will check it out!

I don't remember Jesus directly commenting on any of these issues but I do think there are resources within the Christian tradition to sort them out to our best lights. And in doing so we find Christians disagreeing with each other on these issues. The question is what do we do this? How do we relate to each other when we find ourselves coming to different conclusions?

At 1:54 PM , Anonymous Fr Chris said...

Andrew --

Why do you think Jesus would have opposed the ACLU??? After all, they have defended everyone's constitutional rights from far left atheists to Jerry Falwell.

At 1:57 AM , Anonymous andrew said...

image of God he created him; male and female He created them.

Therefore creation is true and evolution is not.

Abortion: Psalms 139:13,15, 16 “For You formed my inward parts; You covered me in my mother’s womb … My frame was not hidden from You, when I was made in secret… Your eyes saw my substance being yet unformed…”

Therefore God creates us in our mother’s womb and Abortion is wrong.

Gay Marriage/Divorce: Mt 19:4-6 “And He answered and said to them, ‘Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh. So then they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together let man not separate.’”

Therefore marriage is between a man and a woman.

I’ll do more research on the others topic later. What say you?

I understand people have different opinions. I know I won’t change your mind about anything. My question to you is: Which holds more truth, political beliefs or the Bible?

Just something to think about.

At 7:49 PM , Blogger Dwight said...

1. God couldn't have used evolution to create?

2. I think your stretching divine foreknowledge into something it's not.

3. The absence of gay and lesbians in the Bible (though there are moving stories of strong same sex friendships like David and Jonathan) doesn't give us a marriage policy.

In the end it's neither about the Bible nor political positions: it's about trying to negotiate the best of what we know through the tradition, human experience, dialog with others, the scriptures, other relevant disciplines.

In that process, different conclusions will be reached. A proof text begins the conversation, doesn't end it in trying to respond faithfully to the issues in life.

At 1:08 AM , Anonymous andrew said...

You're obviously a very intelligent man.

I respect your point of view.

I guess you're right, maybe God made us with different hearts to represent both sides of the political spectrum and give people different perspectives on life.

The most imporatnt hing we can do is be kind and loving toward one another and realize we're all on this earth toether and it's easier to get along when we're open to others' opinions instead of shooting them down.

Before I posted I didn't understadn how someone could be Christian and liberal, but I think you've helped me understand.

Thank You



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