A Religious Liberal Blog

This site hopefully can provide some vehicle by which I can comment, complain, and once in a while praise the state of religion in this country and around the world from a liberal protestant perspective.

Sunday, September 16, 2007

Christians Gone Wild

Several weeks ago, the mayor of Fr. Lauderdale held a press conference for his crusade against gay folks. He was armed with men in paramilitary outfits from a local fundamentalist church.

The sight of seeing a politician surrounded by a posse, one engaged in in a spiritual revival against "the depth of sexual sin in Broward County," is astonishing. The best statement summarizing this was from indy catholic bishop Bruce Simpson who said "I'm going to be ill."

"Homosexuality and lesbianism are inhuman. Those who practice them are insane, satanic and are not fit to live.." Anglican Bishop of Uyo, Rt. Rev. Isaac Orama. I'll let the words speak for themselves. Should the Anglican communion survive? I can't say yes anymore.

And a group called "soulwinners" decided to evangelize UNC Chapel Hill. I'm sure most folks in colleges have come across traveling evangelists who come to these campuses to say the most awful things against students.

While volumes have been written on this subject I still marvel at how religion can be used in ways that are so destructive to one's self and others. The burden of religious faith for those of us seeking something different, is to figure out how one relates to this.


At 7:29 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is the nature of religions to abuse oneself and others. Christians are urged to pluck eyes out that offend them, cut arms off. Muslims cut hands off and stone people to death, as christians do. All religions command followers/believers to kill non-believers.
The morality espoused by religions only pertains to followers of said religion. All others are non-believers and therefore must be killed.
All religions are used to goad the young men to war. Humans don't kill each other by choice. It's not human nature to kill others without a reason. In war you kill without knowing the victim. You are provided the reason to kill by religious dogma.
Dogma, by definition, can't change to evlove along with societies needs. We need to stop killing each other because we have nuclear weapons. Things have changed. Our gods need to be decommissioned. We don't need them any more. It's not an outragous proposition. The Greeks and Romans both decommissioned gods during their time.
Once you stop believing in an "after life", this life becomes so much more precious. The idea, "Suffer through this life to find bliss in the next" has to be de-bunked for the absolute, blatant lie it is.

At 11:32 AM , Blogger jennennennenna said...

you can be gay/lesbain and still believe in god.
now, if it was a christian that killed someone...differant story...
email me, if u disagree.

At 11:44 AM , Anonymous Michael S said...

Wow, Dwight. ;-) Someone let the crazies out.

At 10:34 AM , Blogger JusPal said...

It is in human nature to be bad, evil, whatever you want to call it. That is why children have to be taught manners, sharing, the value of another life. My son is 10 months old. He's a good boy. He also knows what he wants and when he wants it and that is all that is important to him. We are born with selfishness, greed, jealousy; no one has to teach a child these things.

The bible teaches the wrath of God, the stoning of adulterers, that ultimate death awaits all sinners.

The bible also teaches that judgement is God's job, and His alone. As true christians we are taught tolerance and forgiveness. It is not our place to judge. Let me officially apologize for bigotry and hatred under the guise of "religion." As a christian you must believe in the word of the bible. It is our place to bring others to God by testifying our experiences and beliefs. We are to be witnesses for God, not judge and jury. If we agree or disagree with a lifestyle or belief of a fellow human being then that's ok.

Extremists are everywhere; christians, islamists, jews, etc. they are heard over the other because they make the proverbial waves. Please do not judge a "religion" based on the hippocrites you see on television. Find out for yourself what it is all about by reading the bible, coran (pardon my spelling) or the like. Remember, if you ask someone else, you're getting their opinion, just as you're getting mine now.

Just some thoughts.

At 10:50 AM , Blogger JusPal said...

Let me add to that by saying that if you are christian (which I am) and you take the bible seriously (which I do) then you must believe the whole thing. You do not get to choose the parts that serve your agenda. Perverting the word of God is a pretty stupid thing to do seeing as how He is almighty. Jesus Himself said, and I quote, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

That sums it up right there. So fellow people, the idiots who do these things in the name of their religious beliefs (like said mayor) either have their own agendas or are severely misguided. Either way they do not follow the example set forth by Jesus Christ when He walked this earth.

At 12:04 PM , Blogger Matt said...

It also says in the Bible that people of the same sex, who "lie" in the same bed are abominations. The language that is used in relation to homosexuals, in the old and new testaments is very strong and very specific. Doesn't this mean that a politician who proclaims to believe the Bible word for word should be able to preach said religious beliefs openly?

Isn't the Jesus saying, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" then really just a statement against capital punishment? Otherwise, no one would be able to preach out of the Bible unless they were born of a virgin, since Jesus is the only man to ever walk earth who was supposedly free from sin. The Bible is littered with these contradictions that are full of potentials for interpretation.

I'm a liberal, former Christian. I realized that I could no longer classify myself as being part of Christianity if I did not believe every word of it. I don't believe that 5 billion people on the planet who don't accept Christ as their personal savior are going to burn for eternity. I refuse to believe that God is anything but All-Loving, without condition... that includes homosexuals, muslims, buddhists, etc.

That is the fundamental question of modern religious culture. If you don't believe some of it, can you really, truly say that you are a Christian?


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