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Sunday, January 30, 2005


This year marks the 50th anniversary of the ordination of women as ministers and the 75th anniversary of women being ordained as elders in the Presbyterian Church USA. And next year will mark 100 years of women being allowed to serve as deacons in this denomination. The PCUSA has a helpful site marking this occassion which includes ways to celebrate in worship and reflection as well as providing some historical and theological resources.

I grew up PCUSA and knew of women ministers through much of my childhood so it came as a bit of a shock growing up to find out that some denominations did not ordain women. How could one take seriously a church who would use such an arbitrary line to shut out the gifts of a whole segment of the population? One hopes that such an experience will be similar to what future generations in the church will have when it comes to glbt ordination and the inclusion of their gifts in the church.

On a related note, the board of directors of my campus ministry last week passed a resolution with unanimous support which declares us open and affirming of glbt folks. We will be affiliating with the open and affirming programs of the United Church of Christ and the Disciples of Christ. In practice we've been an open place, but there never was any formal recognition of this reality. And since such affiliations are rare in our region, maybe we can become a unique resource.

Around the world, Anglican bishops meeting in Nigeria don't believe that the Episcopal Church's apology for the strife caused by Gene Robinson's consecration is adequate. They want an apology for the ordination itself. Here's the problem I've never seen a conservative site acknowledge. What if the church does not believe they did anything wrong by the consecration? What if liberals actually believe this act was an expression of the demands of the Gospel? To demand renunciation of this act tantamount to asking the ECUSA to lie. That's a demand no one can ask in good faith.

8 Comments:

At 9:20 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Congrats on the campus ministry declaring itself open and affirming! Good work continues despite the struggles! (And glad that more and more women can now go into the ministry, too!)

 
At 5:40 PM , Blogger isaiah said...

Unfortunately, changing views and acknowledging truth can take time. Remember that up until the 15th century most of believed the world to be flat. We are witnessing a marvelous revolution in the realm of religion with inclusion being the key focus…Grace is the outcome. How much we have to learn from our new teachers and leaders whose voices could not be silenced forever.

 
At 6:35 PM , Blogger Marcus said...

No doubt they neither expect nor desire a lie.

This is probably a step along the way to schism, in their eyes.

Rather a shame, eh?

 
At 3:35 PM , Blogger niebuhrian said...

As a pcusa minister, I find it refreshing that your campus ministry would create and fulfill a pledge of openness in the work you do on campus. I love the idea of a partnership with the UCC, as well.

Thanks for being on the frontlines, and I hope that the partnership proves fruitful

grace and peace

 
At 8:36 PM , Blogger gratefulbear said...

The conservative Anglicans want more than an apology -- they want the American Episcopal church to "recant" or face excommunication from the Anglican Communion (which might not even be possible, given the nature of the Communion). Nothing new here. The same demand was made of Galileo, and almost every single one of the medieval mystics...

 
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